Re: Continuity & Cosmetic Operation

From: S & L
Message: 20758
Date: 2003-04-03

----- Original Message -----
From: "alex_lycos" <altamix@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003
Subject: Re: [tied] RE:Re: Continuity & Cosmetic Operation

> > There is still a huge difference between rumîn/român. The first one is
> still
> > the name under which the serf’s were known in Tara
> > Romaneasca/Valahia/Muntenia in medieval times
> > Is the same thing as using "nigger" for "afro-americans"
> > S o r i n
> I am afraid this is not true. The word "rumân" is the phonetical
> evolution ( even if not regulary after the rules of Miguel : see pomus >
> pom but roman > rumân)

Sure it is probably [not being a specialist myself, I must quote Cioranescu’
s Dictionary] the phonetical evolution: "Fonetic, forma rumîn este corecta,
in timp ce romîn se datoreaza neologismului de la sfirsitul sec. XVI".

> The word was indeed the ethonym. What is not very clear in my eyes is by
> whom have been called the serfs "rumân".

I think [not sure!] that it was Mihai Viteazul in XI-XII.1595. He started to
use the romanian language for the first time in the works of his office.
But for details, see also at Giurescu, "Despre rumîni", Bucuresti, 1916.

Actually the expresions with
> "rumân" are still alive in the speach of peasants "ma duc dupa rumânul
> meu" etc.
Yes, when the women say this! :-) [kidding !?]

> Alex

S o r i n