Re: [tied] Re: slavic "dalto"

From: Sergejus Tarasovas
Message: 20732
Date: 2003-04-03

> According to you and others in the list, Albanians may have they
> words gdhe 'gral, knot' (it has also very cruel figurative
> meaning 'stupid') and also gdhend 'to rough-polish, to carve' (it
> has also figurative meaning 'to emancipate'), but they waiting
> another people to get their word for tool - dalta 'chisel'.

But my question was: "what makes you think the Slavic words in question
are 'orphans'". You didn't answer it.
So, if I get you right, your statement can now be reformulated like
"Proto-Slavic *dolbto belongs to the *delb- (*dolb- ~ *dIlb-) nest by
all formal criteria, but since such-and-such makes me think <daltë> is
not a Slavic loan, I automatically deduce from that that Proto-Slavic
*dolbto is a (Proto-)Albanian loan because the words look so similar and
one of them just must have been borrowed; I consider Old Prussian
<dalptan> to be a (Proto-)Albanian loan as well or just consider it
irrelevant to the issue". Is _that_ what you mean?

> Albanian has also many derivates of this name: daltoj,
> daltues,daltim, but their are linguisticley irrelevant.

Yes, because when a word is borrowed and well adopted, the acceptor
starts generating derivatives from it as if it were a native lexeme.