[tied] Re: slavic "dalto"

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> Well, as I pointed out a while ago, *dolto < *dolbto is related to

*delbti and *dolbati 'carve out, chisel' -- Slavic verbs
unambiguously reconstructible on the basis of their modern reflexes.

>
> Why do you assume that all those eminent linguists whose names you

list would agree with your analysis? Watkins is guilty of trying to
connect Gmc. *dailjan- with PIE *dah2- in a very risky way, but are
you privy to his opinion about Alb. daltë? Hamp possibly discusses
the word somewhere, but I haven't been able to come up with a
reference; can you? As for Cimochowski, I've just consulted an
article by him on Slavic-Albanian relations. According to
Cimochowski, <daltë> is a loan from Slavic. ;-)

>
> Piotr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <akonushevci@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:00 PM
> Subject: [tied] Re: slavic "dalto"
>
>
>
> Now let's contemplate these correspondences:
> >
> > Slavic *bolto 'mud, swamp, sludge, pool', *dolto 'chisel'
> > Romanian baltã 'swamp, pool', daltã 'chisel'
> > Albanian baltë 'mud, ooze, sludge', daltë 'chisel'
> >
> > Is this coincidence?
> >
> > Piotr
> ***********
> No, in any case. But, until Alb. daltë 'chisel' is related to
> gdhend 'to carve, to rough-polish', to gdhe 'knot, garl', I don't
> know Slavic dlata to which words is related. Also I think about

Alb.

> baltë and Slavic blato.
> The best think should be Yout to follow the road of famous Slavic
> linguists as Seliscev and others, until I am pleased, I am very

much

> pleased, with such unknown linguists as Cimohowski, Watkins, Hamp,
> Çabej and others.
> Thanks God, we all have the freedom of choice.

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I am talking in general, not only about these words. I hope I give
many arguments for both words, so who likes to accept them it's upon
to him.
Thanks to You, now I doubt that we even have to deal with congates
at all.
As everyone could understands, we have here to do with pure Slavic
loans from (proto-)Albanian, becouse, as we see, these words in
Slavic are orphans.
For me, this issue is closed.

Konushevci