Re[2]: [tied] Vladimir

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 20644
Date: 2003-04-01

At 2:55:31 PM on Tuesday, April 1, 2003, alex_lycos wrote:

> Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

>> Another belated self-correction:

>>> we have Gmc. *xelma- 'helmet' --> PSl. *s^elmU as
>>> opposed to *hulma- 'hill' --> PSl. *xUlmU, both
>>> developing just like any similar words of native origin,
>>> undergoing all the changes expected of them

>> I should have written *xulma 'hill' --> PSl. *xUlmU for
>> the sake of consistency, lest anyone should think I'm
>> proposing a new phonemic contrast for Germanic

> It seems curious that even latin changed the initial form
> of "columne" in "culme". It looks like it is a generaly
> shift or a chain of borowings. Since the form culme is
> begining with Plautus then the slavic "xUlmU" is to seen
> as a loan from latin vias what a language?

Not from Latin at all: Piotr's saying that it's a borrowing
of Germanic */xulma-/. The Gmc. */xul-/ is from zero-grade
*/kl.-/; I believe that /o/ > /u/ in Latin <culmen> is
regular before velar /l/ + consonant.

Brian