Re: [tied] Macedonian x Greek

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 20564
Date: 2003-03-31

So, labiovelars were "labialized" in Macedonian, perhaps. And the "b" in
bedy can represent a "v" (labiodental fricative), transcribed in Greek as
"b".

So, we have:
p / b, bH = p/b
t / d, dH = t/d
k(^)/ g(^),g(^)H = k/g
kW / gW gWH = p / b
w- = b (?)

How about "s"? It is maintained?

----- Original Message -----
From: Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Macedonian x Greek


It looks as if the common ancestor of Greek and Macedonian (I'd add Phrygian
as their next of kin) had had a breathy-voiced series, and the development
*dH > *tH (followed by Grassmann's Law) had been restricted to Greek. The
Macedonian evidence is too uncertain to decide how the labiovelars developed
in the language. We have <niba> 'snow, spring', which seems to support the
change of *gWH > b, but the word may be a loan from Greek. *w survived in
Macedonian, and there is a possible example of *w > b ([v]?) word-initially
(bedu < *wedo:r).

Piotr


----- Original Message -----
From: "João Simões Lopes Filho" <jodan99@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Macedonian x Greek


Did Macedonian retained or drop the digamma (w) ?

Joao SL
----- Original Message -----
From: João Simões Lopes Filho <jodan99@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Macedonian x Greek


> I've already known tha case of Berenike. Macedonian considered a
> sister-language of Greek? The common ancestor might have sonorae aspiratae
or sonorae fricativae yet.
> What was the labio-velar development in Macedonian ? kWe/kWo > pe/po,
ke/ko, te/ko or kwe/kwo ?






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