From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 19825
Date: 2003-03-14
----- Original Message -----
From: Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] migration?
Jeez, you don't take Alex's ramblings seriously, do you? God knows what
cranky stuff he's been reading on the Internet again, but:
(1) Marcomir is a Frankish name.
(2) There is nothing closely or remotely like "Marcomir" among the
documented Cimmerian names.
(3) If anyone thinks I might be wrong about (2), please provide an exact
reference to a SERIOUS source (NOT, e.g. a link to a page where another
bloody moron with an idée fixe sets out again to prove that the Scots are
Scythians, using ancient genealogies invented by himself).
(3) The "Cimmerian-Cimbri" link has been discussed many times on Cybalist,
and, frankly, I'm sick of having to debunk it again and again.
Piotr
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J Smith" <lookwhoscross-eyednow@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:21 AM
Subject: [tied] migration?
> I know this may sound silly, and probably isn't even true,
>
> It just occured to me that what if the Cimmerians were the ones referred
> to in Norse writings
> as the ones (the "Aesir") from North of the Black Sea who migrated east,
> and "conquered" or settled among the Celtic inhabitants of Northern
> Europe, bringing their Germanic speech with them.
> (I know this is way too general and assuming to much, and just throwing
> this out as a "who knows" kind of possibility), and they could have
> become the Cimbri. I wonder if the the name of one Cimmerian leader,
> Marcomir, could be Germanic.
>
> If the Norse writings have any truth in them here (and they may not at
> all) regarding these "Aesir", then the Cimmerians seem to have been the
> only settled people from North of the Black Sea that could have migrated
> West, and if they were the Cimmerians, then this could explain the
> connection of the Aesir with Troy, because Cimmerians were in Asia Minor.
> And it seems that there must have been some migration if we take what
> Herodotus said about the Scythians driving out the Cimmerians, because
> surely not all of them migrated south and into Asia Minor?
>
>
> I don't expect this to be taken seriously, it just randomly occured to
> me, and at the least I wonder if there was a Western Cimmerian migration.
>
> -Michael
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