Re: [tied] migration?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 19780
Date: 2003-03-13

Jeez, you don't take Alex's ramblings seriously, do you? God knows what cranky stuff he's been reading on the Internet again, but:

(1) Marcomir is a Frankish name.

(2) There is nothing closely or remotely like "Marcomir" among the documented Cimmerian names.

(3) If anyone thinks I might be wrong about (2), please provide an exact reference to a SERIOUS source (NOT, e.g. a link to a page where another bloody moron with an idée fixe sets out again to prove that the Scots are Scythians, using ancient genealogies invented by himself).

(3) The "Cimmerian-Cimbri" link has been discussed many times on Cybalist, and, frankly, I'm sick of having to debunk it again and again.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J Smith" <lookwhoscross-eyednow@...>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:21 AM
Subject: [tied] migration?

> I know this may sound silly, and probably isn't even true,
> It just occured to me that what if the Cimmerians were the ones referred
> to in Norse writings
> as the ones (the "Aesir") from North of the Black Sea who migrated east,
> and "conquered" or settled among the Celtic inhabitants of Northern
> Europe, bringing their Germanic speech with them.
> (I know this is way too general and assuming to much, and just throwing
> this out as a "who knows" kind of possibility), and they could have
> become the Cimbri. I wonder if the the name of one Cimmerian leader,
> Marcomir, could be Germanic.
> If the Norse writings have any truth in them here (and they may not at
> all) regarding these "Aesir", then the Cimmerians seem to have been the
> only settled people from North of the Black Sea that could have migrated
> West, and if they were the Cimmerians, then this could explain the
> connection of the Aesir with Troy, because Cimmerians were in Asia Minor.
> And it seems that there must have been some migration if we take what
> Herodotus said about the Scythians driving out the Cimmerians, because
> surely not all of them migrated south and into Asia Minor?
> I don't expect this to be taken seriously, it just randomly occured to
> me, and at the least I wonder if there was a Western Cimmerian migration.
> -Michael