Re: [tied] Re: Celts/Gauls

From: Jo�o Sim�es Lopes Filho
Message: 19710
Date: 2003-03-12

The Odyssey's kimmerioi, a people in the dark North, have their name related
to Hittite kammara- "shadow" (or smoke, or sth like) by some scholars.

Joao SL
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> > The superficial similarity of Cimmerians and Cymry is
> > not to be taken as indicating a link.'Cymry/Kymry is a
> > medieval form. 'Cimmerians' is centuries and centuries
> > earlier. 'Cimbri' would not relate closely to the
> > reliably reconstructed form for Welsh Kymry -
> > *combrogi
> >
> > They are believed to be unrelated forms.I thought that
> > Chris Gwynn put that myth to rest a long time ago on
> > this group
> >
> > I may be wrong but the experts do not equate Cimbri
> > wiht Cymru/Kymry
> >
> > guto
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> In fact "kimerioi" was the generally name given by the folks of Asia
> Minor to all the Nordic people.
> The name was got by Greeks from these people of AM.
> It should be maybe helpfully their toponym and antroponyms for trying to
> make a link to something.
> If there is a name like "Marcomir", one will think at Celtic "marco" at
> Dacian "marcodava" for instance.
> It seems there is a name which points more to "european" as to "iranian"
> side.
> I wondered always where from is this funny idea with Iranian leadership
> over all.
> Iranians in Karpathian Mountains, Iranian as leader of Germans, Iranians
> over Celts, Iranians over all.
> And in time, there is no Iranian anymore, all becoming assimilated by
> "different folks" ,but just after they gave the IE languages to these
> folks. It seems a far away from life scenario, very weak for being true
> too.
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