Re: [tied] Re: Germanic Scythians?

From: Michael J Smith
Message: 19636
Date: 2003-03-08

Torsten, you wrote:
> I've waged sevaral battles here in cybalist that Snorri's (and
> other's) account of an origin in the Pontic area should be taken as
> it stands. They would then have been driven out by Pompey's
> campaigns
> in that area and settled in Thurungia, where they mixed 50 years
> later with a massive influx of Bastarnian (thus Germanic)-speaking
> peoples driven out of Pannonia by Augustus' campaigns there, and
> picked up that language. From there they subjugated Germany and
> Scandinavia, until then Old-Germanic and Celtic speaking.

Torsten, but doesn't Snorri mention that the Aesir migrating from the
east brought their Germanic speech with them to Northern Europe?
(although he doesn't refer to their speech as "Germanic" of course). He
even mentions that in English there are place names that show traces of a
different language (I am assuming British Celtic). If the "Aesir" were
Scythians from the Pontic, they wouldn't be Germanic-speakers. I wonder
if Snorri is hinting at this Celtic speech he finds traces of in England
being once spoken over all Northwestern Europe, and Germanic speakers
coming from the east (at maybe a very early date?).

Then again, could Germanic speakers have originally been Scythians in
appearance and culture in the east, and brought (maybe a small number of
them) Germanic speech to Celtic speakers (Who would later have become the
"Germans"). After all didn't Tacitus mention that the Germans were like
the Gauls before the Gauls were conquered by the Romans?

But who knows, I'm just throwing out possibilities- Michael

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