Re: [tied] Allegedly attested Dacian & Illyrian "cerb-" [Re: Romani

From: alex_lycos
Message: 19562
Date: 2003-03-03

gs001ns@... wrote:
>> For Latin "cervus" we have _attested_ dacian "cerb-" and illirian
>> "cerb-" And that in the time of Latin. [...] with "rv" in words,
>> there is the "rb" in attested dacian glosses. What should one
>> belive now?
>
> Where exactly? How do those words look like? (I mean the
> exact spelling.) What's the proposed meaning of those words?
>
> George

Moesia Inferior , toponym: Cerbatis
Even Tomascheck mention this one with the specification the old Callatis
should have been called initialy "Cerbetis".
In fact conf. Plinius should have mentioned this one under the form
"Karbatis", "Kerbetis" ( no "th" there)( where exactly in Plinius, I
cannot tell since Tomascheck did not gave exactly where)
In illirian ( Pogirch) there is the toponym "Cerbalus"

One should not wonder since this word "cerv-" is indeed to find in a lot
of corespondences with this form.
poln. = karw, from this one loaned in Old. Prusian "curwis", old Persian
"sirwis ( with k > s ) from this one loaned in finnish "hirvi", Greek
sergoi ( interesting PIE k > s in Greek?), Lappisch "c^uarvi",
Lithuanian "karve",Russian "korova", etc.

They are all words from PIE *ker ( Kopf, Horn, Gipfel). It can be that
the "Ceraunes Mountain" meant just " The High mountains" .