Re: [tied] More nonsense: Is English /d/ truely voiced?

From: P&G
Message: 19168
Date: 2003-02-24

>What I am asserting is that I have extensive experience in hearing English
in many dialects, >and that, as a person trained in languages, I can make
valid observations about what I >hear.

Oh, that's quite different. I thought when you said you were a native
speaker, that you were asserting you were a native speaker. If your claim
is based on your specialised knowledge, that's fine - because it still makes
your status as native speaker irrelevant - which was my point.

I don't dispute your ability or your training or your expertise. Only the
apparent claim that a native speaker can accurately hear the phonetics of
her/his own language without specialist training.

Peter