Re: [tied] frog

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "João Simões Lopes Filho"
<jodan99@...> wrote:

> The word is "bruscus" in dialectal Latin, that is analyzed as

**gWrodH-sko-,

> akin to batrakhos (<*brathakos < *gWRdH-nko-) and German krote.
> Some scholars link bruscus to Spanish bruja/Portuguese

bruxa "witch".

>
> Joao SL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alex_lycos <altamix@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:45 PM
> Subject: [tied] frog
>
>
> > frog - O.E. frogga, a dim. of frox, forsc, frosc "frog," from

P.Gmc.

> > *fruska-z.
> > actual forms:
> > German: frosch
> > Norwegian: frosk
> > Albanian : bretk ( masculine bretk, feminine bretkosë)
> > Romanian : brosc- ( feminine 'broasca', masculine 'broscoi')
> >
> > The Latin form was "rana" ( but there is "ruscus"= toad, with an

unclear

> > etymology), the Greek word is "bathrakos"
> > It seems that the originar form was with "br-" since the

Germanic "f" is

> > originated more later and a Germanic "f" should be improbable to

give an

> > "b" in Greek, Albanian and Romanian.
> > I am not sure if Greek "bathrakos" is a derived from the same

root.

> > If the Greek word is from the same root, how are to explain the
> > differences here ?
> > germ:frosc
> > alb: bretk
> > rom: brosc
> > greek:bathracos
> > The Greek form has an "-ath-" between "b" and "r"; the Albanian

has an

> > "-etk" instead of an "-osc" like in Germanic and Romanian.
> > Which should be the root in this case?
> >
> >
> >*** In Etymologisches Wörterbuch der Albanischen Sprache by

Gustav Meyer, p. 47, I find out latin word bro:scus "zurück" that
could derived Alb. breshka, rom. brosc, germ. frosc, Greek
bathrakos. I haven't any big dictionary to verify it, but I believe
that is correct.
It's quite interesting that sllavic languages use differnts words
kornjac^a "turtle" and zhaba "frog". It illustrates the fact that
sllavic tribes have nothing to do with the sea fauna.
I doubt that this world could be a trace of Pre-Indoeuropean
Language, probabley Illyrian.

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