Re: [tied] to yelp

Hi

Pokorny gives this root *lŒ- for Albanian 'leh'.
Also 'laikatis'(toady) is named as having the same root (maybe you
don´t have to go that far when you have the simpler form 'lajkë'=
flattery ).

Probably you already knew these.

Alvin


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> Cognate to what?! They are each of different origin! Ger. kläffen

might, at least in theory, be an ablaut variant of the now obsolete
English verb <clepe> (OE clipian ~ cleopian 'call'), but not of
<yelp>, which has its own set of continental cognates (e.g. MHG
galf 'outcry, barking'). The Romanian word, if not an independent
onomatopoeia (the cluster /kl-/ has a phonaesthetic value in several
European languages) may be a wandering loan from German
(incidentally, Rom. klopot 'bell' comes from Slavic). Alb. leh can't
be related to any of the above by any stretch of the imagination. If
etymologised as *la:-ske-, it _could_ be relater to Slavic
*lajati 'bark', though one's always got to be careful with
potentially expressive words.

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "alex_lycos" <altamix@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:04 PM
> Subject: [tied] to yelp
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> > yelp - O.E. gelpan (Anglian), gielpan (W.Saxon) "to boast," from

P.Gmc.

> > *gelpanan. Meaning "quick, sharp bark or cry" (n.) is c.1500.
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> > German : klaffen, kläffen MHD="klaffen", AHD="klafo:n"
> > Albanian : leh (lost of k)
> > Romanian : clefãi
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> > Rom. Word is given as onomatopoeic formation and all the

derivatives as

> > coming from this onomatopoeia Semantically is no difference. In

all

> > languages means " to bark"
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> > Question: can we find there slavic cognates too ?
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> > Alex