Re: [tied] Laryngeal theory as an unnatural

Miguel:

>>or using complete irrelevancies like his **pk^wos based
>>solely on Armenian
>
>No. Read what I said.

If a case showing a zero-graded root **pkw- within its
declensional paradigm is credibly attested in a non-Armenian
language, then we'll talk.

>I understand what you say. I just don't think you are correct.
>
> >However, that being so, there were instances where the loss of
> >unstressed vowels was resisted
>
>So what are the rules?

Therefore, I'm correct that you don't understand what I said. The
rule is based on the operative word "paradigm". I don't care if
you don't get it at this point.

>There is no reason in your theory why this should not have given
>*udnos. Cf. the collective root *ud�:r, *ud�ns.

The reason is painfully simple to any sensible IEist:
*u is the normal zero-grade of *eu/*au/*ou, not of *we/*wa/*wo.

>The genitive of *pek^u is not **pek^eus!

Yes, I know about *pekuos, a thematic genitive. Thematic variants
of these genitives were obviously created to wipe out the much
less common *-s genitive.

Unfortunately for you, that doesn't make the *-s genitive go
away and, yes, one of the possible forms of the genitive of
*peku is *pekeus, and **pkwos continues to not exist.

>When the vowel of the strong stem is *e, the oblique has zero:
>*sem- obl. *sm- "one", *pek^-u obl. *pk^w- "cattle", *h2akmon-
>obl. *&2k^men- "stone", *g^heimon- obl. *g^himen- "winter",
>*pah2wr, obl. *ph2wen- "fire", *melit obl. *mlit- "honey";

There are no such asyllabic zero-grade forms in the declensions
above aside from that of a numeral, which proves my whole point.
I wish you would stop citing an unattested **pkw-.


- gLeN


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