[tied] Re: viridis.. just for Miguel, other please ignore

From: Richard Wordingham Message: 18250
Date: 2003-01-28

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham
<richard.wordingham@...>" <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...> wrote:
> > Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:18:43 +0100, alex_lycos <altamix@...>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Miguel, just one question more please. Which is the phonetically
> > explanation of Romanian "verde" = green in this case?
> > We have for "varza" = Latin "vir(i)dia"
> > We have for "verde" = Latin "vir(i)dis"
> >
> > Why once "e" and once "a" , why once "d" and once "z" ? .
> >
> > Many, many thanks in advance.
>
> If you created green.lex with the two Latin words (minus the
> braketed 'i'), and remember to have an end of line after last word,
> and ran:
>
> sounds -p green romanian
>
> you would see the answer. Effectively, the final /a/ makes all the
> difference. It does it by yodicising the last /i/ and then
breaking
> what was the first /i/, which is then smoothed by the initial /v/.
>
> Richard.

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Applying green.sc to romanian.lex

7 categories found
95 rules found
i->.i /_ applies to virdis at 1
i->.i /_ applies to virdis at 4
.->! /_VCC(CC).V(VCC)# applies to v.ird.is at 1
s-> /_# applies to v!ird.is at 7
i->e /_ applies to v!ird.i at 2
i->e /_ applies to v!ird.i at 6
e->ea /!(i)_(CCCC).A# applies to v!erd.e at 2
ea->e /!(i)_(CCCC).e# applies to v!eard.e at 2
X-> /_ applies to v!erd.e at 1
X-> /_ applies to v!erd.e at 5
virdis --> verde
a->.a /_ applies to virdia at 5
i->.i /_ applies to virdi.a at 1
i->.i /_ applies to virdi.a at 4
.->! /_V(VCCCC).V(VCCCC).V(VCC)# applies to v.ird.i.a at 1
.i->j /_XV applies to v!ird.i.a at 5
i->e /_ applies to v!irdj.a at 2
dj->z /_ applies to v!erdj.a at 4
e->ea /!(i)_(CCCC).A# applies to v!erz.a at 2
ea->a /P!_ applies to v!earz.a at 2
a->& /._# applies to v!arz.a at 6
X-> /_ applies to v!arz.& at 1
X-> /_ applies to v!arz.& at 5

Richard.