Re: [tied] Re: yellow

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 18045
Date: 2003-01-25

galbus must come from Gaulish.
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From: alex_lycos <altamix@...>
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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: yellow


> Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
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> > From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [tied] Re: yellow
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> >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:16:28 +0100, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> the PIE form for gelb= *ghel[e]
> >>> Finding the form with "b" in germanic too
> >>
> >> There is no *b in Germanic: OE geolo > yellow, OS, OHG gelo (G
> >> gelwes) > Gelb (with b < w), Du. geel, dial. geluw
> >
> > We might add, for Alex's information, that Gmc. *gelwa- comes from
> > *g^Helwo-, the regular Latin reflex of which is <helvus>. Latin
> > <galbus>, <galbinus> etc. are either unrelated or borrowed (much more
> > likely the latter, IMO); at any rate they can't be inherited reflexes
> > of the PIE term in Latin
> >
> > Piotr
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> Thank you Miguel and Piotr. Miguel, thank you for showing my bad
> connection with an Germanic "b".
> Piotr thank you for showing me that the forms "galbus", "galbinus" are
> probable words which have been borrowed in Latin from somewhere else.
> I forgot to add a toponym like "[Gãlb]ioara".
> Just a more question; could it be they are derivatives of the colour
> white? alb, gãlb, spelb= white, yellow, pale( spelb=just about the
> colour of the face when someone is sick and his face has a very pale
> colour).For "white" there is clear no Latin word even if there is
> "albus" in latin (see Alboca, Albocensii& co for getic space)
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> Alex
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