Re: [tied] Re: yellow

From: alex_lycos
Message: 18026
Date: 2003-01-24

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: yellow
>
>
>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:16:28 +0100, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> the PIE form for gelb= *ghel[e]
>>> Finding the form with "b" in germanic too
>>
>> There is no *b in Germanic: OE geolo > yellow, OS, OHG gelo (G
>> gelwes) > Gelb (with b < w), Du. geel, dial. geluw
>
> We might add, for Alex's information, that Gmc. *gelwa- comes from
> *g^Helwo-, the regular Latin reflex of which is <helvus>. Latin
> <galbus>, <galbinus> etc. are either unrelated or borrowed (much more
> likely the latter, IMO); at any rate they can't be inherited reflexes
> of the PIE term in Latin
>
> Piotr


Thank you Miguel and Piotr. Miguel, thank you for showing my bad
connection with an Germanic "b".
Piotr thank you for showing me that the forms "galbus", "galbinus" are
probable words which have been borrowed in Latin from somewhere else.
I forgot to add a toponym like "[Gãlb]ioara".
Just a more question; could it be they are derivatives of the colour
white? alb, gãlb, spelb= white, yellow, pale( spelb=just about the
colour of the face when someone is sick and his face has a very pale
colour).For "white" there is clear no Latin word even if there is
"albus" in latin (see Alboca, Albocensii& co for getic space)

Alex