From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 17905
Date: 2003-01-22
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From: alex_lycos <altamix@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Greek "sala-"
> aap_br@... wrote:
> > Fellow listers,
> >
> > IŽve been just watching for some time. I wasnŽt going to write so
> > soon, but I think I must contribute to this topic
> > In Portuguese we say "salmoura". Or "salmoira" - the "ou"/"oi"
> > variation is common in Portuguese. Other examples, with the most
> > common form first: "coisa"/"cousa" (thing), "touro"/"toiro" (bull)
> >
> > According to my resources, "salmoura" comes from Greek "halmyris",
> > via Late Latin "salemoria"
> > "Halmyris" = "salt water", and it appears in "halmirólise", a Geology
> > term that means "decomposition of rocks under sea waters"
> >
> > IŽm not sure, since I donŽt have any information to corroborate this
> > statement, but is it possible that word halmyris passed to Latin,
> > then came back to Greek with other loanwords in the Middle Ages
> > (like "porta", for instance?)
>
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> this should possible I guess. The problem in this case will resolve the
> question:
> " what means in latin 'moria' ?". That means it shouldn't mean anything
> but it is just a loanword from Greek.
> But the Romanian "moare" which is supposed to be the root of the verb "
> a mura " is given as coming _maybe_ ( accentuated of DEX) from Latin
> "moria".
> In this case, the first question is not resolved at all since in Latin
> should then have been the word "moria". About the semantism of the word
> I don't speak/ask because it seems it plays no role the semantism in
> Latin and the semantism in Romanian, the relation between Latin &
> Romanian words being accepted " as it is" , just on the basis of
> phonological similarities.
> Alex
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