From: regular reg
Message: 17303
Date: 2003-01-01
As far as I know kalenU means nothing in Slavic. KOLENO means - a knee. However, and as I said before try KOLEDO (one of Slavic customs), KOLEDARI (people who celebrate KOLEDO/A).
>From: alexmoeller@... >Reply-To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com >To: >Subject: Re: [tied] calendar >Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 10:52:45 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.102]) by mc1-f15.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 25 Dec 2002 01:53:58 -0800 >Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Dec 2002 09:53:48 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 25 Dec 2002 09:53:47 -0000 >Received: (qmail 5066 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2002 09:53:46 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Dec 2002 09:53:46 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO mailout06.sul.t-online.com) (194.25.134.19) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2002 09:53:46 -0000 >Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18R8ET-0006cx-01; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 10:53:45 +0100 >Received: from alexrechner (320042092519-0001@[217.82.140.62]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.comwith smtp id 18R8ER-0sn8CWC; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 10:53:43 +0100 >X-eGroups-Return: sentto-1279838-15331-1040810028-hcchallenge2000=hotmail.com@... >X-Sender: alexmoeller@... >X-Apparently-To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com >Message-ID: <001801c2abfb$681ff120$152ca8c0@...> >References: <002f01c2ab1e$1d3a8c20$53a2fea9@...> <003301c2abec$9bfee500$8f02073e@...> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >X-Sender: 320042092519-0001@... >X-eGroups-From: alexmoeller@... (alexmoeller-online.de) >X-Yahoo-Profile: altamix >Mailing-List: list cybalist@yahoogroups.com; contact cybalist-owner@yahoogroups.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cybalist@yahoogroups.com >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: >Return-Path: sentto-1279838-15331-1040810028-hcchallenge2000=hotmail.com@... >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2002 09:53:58.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B75A840:01C2ABFB] > >P&G wrote: > >> Is "calare" a late Latin word? > >> Calendae / Calendar = from gerundial form of Latin "calare", > >> cognates = greek "kalein" > > > > The Latin word is best spelled "Kalendar". Because of its religious > > significance, it retained the old spelling of "k" before "a" ("q" > > before o and u, "c" elsewhere). It seems most probable that it is > > cognate with (not borrowed from) the Greek kalein. > > > > The verb calo (best spelled kalo), and derivatives, is attested > > extremely early, e.g. CIL I:I about 500-450 BC. > > > > Peter > > > >In some dictionaries the verb "caleo" is given as beeing a loan from >Etruscan. But the cognate forms of at least 3 IE languages speak for a >properly evolution in Latin. >Greek = kalein >PGmc= kallojanon >Rom = caloian >From PGmc *kalojanon it is said we have the english word " to call" >today. > >In Rom. Lang. We have "caloian"= a tradition in the times of dryness, >aridity, when people make a puppet of earth , decorate it with flowers, >let it on a river or bury it in the earth with the belief, this will >bring rain again. >The term "caloian" is to find in the times of second Bulgarian-Wallach >empire, Ionits� Caloian descent of As�nesti-Family ( see getic tribe of >Asemnesti). > >If one will try to derive the Romanian form from Latin, it should be >pretty easy since it seems that "Caleo Janus" can be a composition of >"calling Jupiter", so there you got it "calo+ianu"= from latin "Calo >Janus". If this is a pertinent composition, I am not able to say:-) >But, enough with speculations. Cf. DEX, the Romanian word "caloian" is >not a loanword, but is to see in parallel with the Slavic word "kalenU". >I have no idea what Slavic "kalenU" means, but I don't see why a nasal >from Slavic will disappear in Romanian . So far I don't know why there >is just with Slavic "kalenU" a correspondence since we have "calo" in >Latin, "*kallojanon" in PGmc, "kalein" in Greek and of course, if >belonging to the same family , the Slavic "kalenU". > > >Regards >Alex. > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/