Re: [tied] PIE root for "to fart"?

From: danjmi
Message: 17231
Date: 2002-12-19

There is a learned discussion of 'bzdet'' 'fart quietly'
vs. 'perdet'' 'fart loudly' in "An example of iconicity in Russian"
in "Studies Out In Left Field, Defamatory Essays Presented to James
D> McCawley" 1971, for anyone fortunate enough to have that
magnificent publication. Darden (? Most of the authors use
pseudonyms) writes " [bzdet'] is the only verb in Russian to
preserve the voiced palatal stop which comes from a /dj/ cluster,
i.e. it has first sing. pres. 'bzdzu'*, presumably
pronounced /bzzu/**.
* inverted circumflex over second z
** reversed ` over both z's and cedilla-like extension under second.
Dan Milton


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, " Alexander Stolbov"
<astolbov@...> wrote:
> Are the corresponding forms in Russian <bzdet'> and <perdet'> ?
> The latter word means mainly a loud sound, but the former one
first of all
> associates with a smell.
> Is the situation in other Slavic languages the same?
>
> Alexander
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
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> > Subject: Re: [tied] PIE root for "to fart"?
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> > > No need for speculation; in Danish(<fise> vs. <fjerte>) this
is actually
> so.
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> > I know. I meant speculation extending to PIE forms.
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