Re: bh/p-l/r Family (was OE *picga)

--- In cybalist@..., "Richard Wordingham" <richard.wordingham@...>
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> > Of course, "brother" means now a biological brother. But why then
> > does it have the binary comparison suffix *-ter? And note that

this

> > would contrast /brother/ "of the phratry/moiety on the other side

of

> > the river" with /sister/ "of the the phratry/moiety on this side

of

> > the river" (because of *swe- "one's own").
>
> It's a shame that PIE for 'sister' (Greek for 'niece') doesn't have
> anything like *-ter-.

Oops. Yes. Of course.

> > Does it mean males moved to the other side of the river to marry?
>
> Or are we talking about mummy's brother and sister?
>
> I've two more words for your collection:
>
> Hebrew p-l-g 'divide', as in Peleg in Genesis x 25.
>
> Arabic f-l-h. 'till the soil', as in English 'fellah'. Modern

Hebrew

> p-l-h. has the meanings 'till', 'split', but I haven't ruled out

the

> possibility of it being a loan from Arabic.

Thanx! And Akkadian(?) pilakku, Greek pelykys (cited from
memory) "(double?) axe".

>
> Do you have any Afro-Asiatic boat words in p-l or p-r? I thought

you

> implied elsewhere that you did, but I couldn't find them when I
> looked.
>

Yes.


*bur "boat"

br "kind of Nubian ship" Egyptian (new)

*bur- "boat" East Chadic
buro: "boat" Ndam

from Orel & Stolbova

in

www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/Opr.html

Part of the bH/p-r/l- stuff is in

www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/bHrl.html

which should be done something about.

> Richard.

Even worse:

According to a book quoted very early in Cybalist, judging mainly
from place names, the Hebrews actually lived in Western Arabia. Thus,
to Egyptians, the Habiru would have been the guys across the water.

Torsten