composition

From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 16937
Date: 2002-11-29

about albanian:

The strongest evidence, however, comes not from the meaning of
the proper names (which is always open to doubt) but from
their structure. Most Illyrian names are composed of a single
unit; many Thracian ones are made of two units joined
together. Several Thracian place-names end in -para, for
example, which is thought to mean 'ford', or -diza, which is
thought to mean 'fortress'. Thus in the territory of the
Bessi, a well-known Thracian tribe, we have the town of
Bessapara, 'ford of the Bessi'. The structure here is the same
as in many European languages: thus the 'town of Peter' can be
called Peterborough, Petrograd, Petersburg, Pierreville, and
so on. But the crucial fact is that this structure is
impossible in Albanian, which can only say 'Qytet i Pjetrit',
not 'Pjeterqytet'. If para were the Albanian for 'ford', then
the place-name would have to be 'Para e Besseve'; this might
be reduced in time to something like 'Parabessa', but it could
never become 'Bessapara'. And what is at stake here is not
some superficial feature of the language, which might easily
change over time, but a profound structural principle. This is
one of the strongest available arguments to show that Albanian
cannot have developed out of Thracian. [42]

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The same thing is valid for romanian. You cannot composite
something like Bessapara, you need City + "of XXX". I will
like to let rom. lang. out of discution here because it is
supposed rom. has the latin structure, so is no wonder there
is a construction "City of XXX".

Alb. language is supposed to have some latin elements but
these elements did not affected the language, the structure of
it. But in albanian is too impossible creating such a
Bessapara and romanians and albanians use the same way for
making such compositions. In this case , only trough this
prism, we tend to say, neither rom.lang nor albanian lang.
can have something to do with the old idioms from Balcan. The
old form of composing Bessi+para shows the same typus like
slavic, german and greek. Petrograd-Klausburg-Acropolis. What
is to understand from here? Are there any studies which
tratate the problem from this point of veiw?

regards