Re: [tied] Bakhtiar

Thanks for the tip. Could "yar" as "friend" have
already existed in the 5th c. BC, and be viewed as a
component of KAT-IAR? The only serviceable thing I was
able to come up with for KAT is the personal name
"Kati" (some ancient sage) and if "yar" is not
anachronistic the tribal name would be "friend of
Kati". (George)

--- Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
wrote:

> The correct division is baxt-ya:r 'friend of
> fortune'. Persian ya:r 'friend' (borrowed into many
> modern Iranian and several Indo-Aryan languages) is
> a frequent element in personal names. I don't know
> its etymology offhand, but I'll check it up.
>
> Piotr
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "george knysh" <gknysh@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: <gknysh@...>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 7:12 PM
> Subject: [tied] Scythian query
>
>
> > One of the major Scythian groupings mentioned by
> > Herodotus was that of the KATIAR. Scions of the
> > "second son" of Targitaos. Almost certainly
> "Nomadic"
> > Scythians (along with the TRASPIES). In our
> > collaborative efforts to understand and
> etymologize
> > the names of various 5th c. BC Scythian tribal
> > alliances, the KATIAR have so far proved elusive.
> So
> > my query is this: would it make any sense at all
> to
> > compare the name of these ancient folk to that of
> the
> > contemporary Iranian BAKHTIAR? If so, what would
> be
> > the relevant articulations? -AR? -IAR? -TIAR?
>
>
>

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