Re: [tied] das Wort

From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 16921
Date: 2002-11-29

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From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
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Subject: Re: [tied] das Wort


> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:25:24 +0100, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
>
> >Pokorny derives <govoriti> from the root *gou-. I can't see
a convincing
> >explanation of the *-or- part, though we have e.g. Gk.
goeros 'wailing'
> >< *gow-ero-. If I could propose a plausible Gothic source,
I'd be tempted
> >to regard <govoriti> as a loan from East Germanic, like
<gonoziti> 'save'
> >< *ga-nazjan. But hypothetical *ga-warjan could only mean
'forbid' or 'warn',
>
> Perhaps then Germanic (ga-)warr- "confusion" (> Pol. gwar
"turmoil,
> fuss")? Not sure if it's in Gothic, but since it also gives
Romance
> *gwerra "war", it was apparently available.
>
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...


[Moeller]
not in "all" romance. Rom Lang has "rãsboi/rãzboi" , which is
suppose to come from slavic "razboj"= to kill, to conquer(?)
and the derivate of germanic (ga)-warr is unknown in romanian.