Re: celtic-getae cognates

From: m_iacomi
Message: 16793
Date: 2002-11-18

--- In cybalist@..., "ravichaudhary2000" <ravi9@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., alexmoeller@... wrote:
> > getae-celtic
> > -toponimes
> >
> > Argidava/Argedauon- Argentomagus/Argentoratum
> > Agnavia-Aginnum
> > Arsonion-Arausio
> > Bacauca-Bagacum
> > Biroe-Virodunum
> > Burticum/Burdomina/Burdopes-Burdigala
> > -dava,-deva -Deva ( this one is in Britannia)
> > -dina - dunum
> > Durostorum-Durocortorum/Divodurum/Durovernum
> > Itadeva-Itius portus
> > Lukunata -Lugudunum/Luguvallium
> > Magimias-Magontiacum
> > Rusidava-Ruscino
> > Sagadava-Segodunum
> > Tilito-Telo
> > Vendenis/Vindena -Vindobona
> >
> > getae-celtic
> > -hidronimes
> >
> > Alutus-Alisone, Alisantia
> > Aranco/Ararus/Arine -Arar, Arus, Araca
> > Atrys-Aturavos
> > Istros-Isar
> > Oescus/Escu-Isca, Iscara, Isciona, Oscara
> > Latron -Lutra
> > Mutrium-Matra/Matrona
> > Samus-Samara
> > Danaster-Danubius
> > Timesis-Tamesis
> >
> >
> > I find these paraleles are pretty interesant.
>
> What is your source.

I have no idea where he got these so-called paralels, but it's
obvious that at least some of them are flawed. One can recognize
some Latin or Greek names of places and rivers from regions
inhabited or not by Celts and Northern Thracians (as Arausio =
nowdays Orange in southern France, Lugudunum = Lyon, Vindobona =
Vienna, Danaster = Dnester, Danubius = Istros = Danube, etc.) which
are supposed without support to have a direct relationship with
local names. The -dunum termination is surely Gallic (Celtic) but
that doesn't imply anything on the stem. The funniest "paralel" is
between "Danaster" and "Danubius": Dnester is a river which flows
into the Black Sea (has no Celtic connection) and the Danube has
all tha reasons to be more likely a Northern Thracian than a Celtic
name. On the other hand, the presence of the Greek "Istros" for the
same river could hardly be explained in a list of "paralels".

> and what do these words mean in todays English

You ask him for way too much... :-)

Regards,

Marius Iacomi