Re: [tied] Re: crows and the glottalic theory

On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 14:24:34 -0000, "tgpedersen"
<tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 10:57:33 -0000, "tgpedersen"
>> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>>
>> >It's true that Swedish tone 1 corresponds by and large to Danish
>stød
>> >and that the latter is later than the former, but that doesn't
>> >necessarily mean one evolved into the other. Rather, once a
>language
>> >gives up tones, it might begin to use a device to indicate a
>syllable
>> >or mora boundary that needed no further indication when tones were
>> >used.
>>
>> And how is this different from "evolved into"?
>>
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>> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
>> mcv@...
>
>You will find stød in Danish like this: -CV?C or -CVR?C but never -C?
>VC, as you have in your theory.

But I haven't given any theory about the stød.

>It looks like it was the break between tones, not a tone, that
>evolved into the stød.

The high tone of the second syllable was transferred (as a glottal
stop) to the first syllable when the final syllable was lost (but only
if the first syllable had a long vowel or short vowel + resonant to
carry the stød). I think that fits the description of high tone
evolving into stød.


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...