Re: OE *picga

From: tgpedersen
Message: 16505
Date: 2002-10-24

--- In cybalist@..., "Richard Wordingham" <richard.wordingham@...>
wrote:
> --- In cybalist@..., Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
> wrote:
> >

> >> How strong is the evidence that OE <cg> represented [gg] as well
> as [dZ]? I'd always understood that <cg> only represented [dZ].
>
> > Well, Frocga, Docga & Stagga can give their testimony if
summonsed.
>Alternative witnesses
> will be required, such as Frogga, Hogg (a.k.a. Hocg), Earwicga
> ('earwig') and Sceacga (>'shag', rough wool etc - not the bird
until
> much later, if it be the same word. The basic meaning seems to
> be 'projecting bit').
>
> > However, the absence of i-umlaut in Frocga & Co. (with OE
> expressive gemination) is proof enough that there had never been a
*j
> there to palatalise the velar, and that the OE pronunciation was [-
gg-
> ].
>
> Earwicga spoils the pattern (i-umlaut would have had no effect
here),
> and a possible reading rule. (<licgan> v. <earwicgan> would be the
> near-minimal pair.)
>
> Is the expressive gemination of voiced consonants OE, Germanic or
> Scandinavian (cf Swedish sugga 'sow')? Moreover, what is being
> geminated in Frogga & co? <-gga>/<-cga> looks like a word-
> classifying suffix, akin to '-er' in German animal words. My
problem
> is that the England's Danes are plausibly accused of hardening a
lot
> of OE 'soft' consonants, so when my OE textbook (Quirk & Wrenn)
says
> <cg> is as 'dg' in 'judge', I am inclined to believe it.
> (Northumbrian late OE geeggoden 'egged on' probably does have [gg];
> Onions cites it as a loan from ON.) English 'stag' may derive from
> ON 'staggr', 'staggi' = 'male bird'; the English word has referred
to
> various male animals. The possible correspondence of English 'teg'
> (a type of sheep, first attested 16th century) to Swedish
tacka 'ewe'
> probably creates more problems than it solves.
>
> Richard.

Falk & Torp:
(Da, No) frø, early Da frød, Sw. frö [I thought it was groda?], Nw
dial frau(d), ON frauðr. Related to ON frauð "froth".
(Da, No) frosk, ON froskr = AS forsc [etc]
Germanic stem *fruska- from *fruðska- "the slimy or frothy".
Also:
ON frauki (for *frauðki), cf with different ablaut Eng dial. frock,
cf. with g-suffix AS frogga > frog (from *fruþgan)
Later transition fr > þr caused Nw dial trausk, Sw dial tråsk

[and torsk "codfish"? - Ah the memory of my school days!]

Torsten