Re: [tied] You Are What You Drink

Amedeo,

I'm sorry to have to say this, but what you're writing below are naive and frivolous word-games without any value whatsoever. As you choose to ignore linguistic scholarship altogether and have little to offer instead, don't expect much sympathy from the moderator of this group. A while ago you referred us to a group page where you promised to explain your theory of "Wine Aryans" and "Beer Aryans" (now it seems they all drank milk too), but as the link did not work I was not able to learn anything about you "methodological reasons" to replace PIE. If you wish to summarise those reasons for the Cybalisters, I'll let you do so and I'll permit you ideas to be discussed, but your other posts will be rejected as of now. I want to prevent the list from going to the dogs.

Yours,

Piotr (acting as moderator)

----- Original Message -----
From: Amedeo Amendola

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:48 PM

Subject: [tied] Re: Greek double-sigma / double-tau

Lisa, you say you found out something already; perhaps the following information is superfluous: Thalatta (Attic) = Thalassa (Ionian) = sea; sea water Some authors used The Inner {sea}= the Mediterranean sea The Outer (sea) = the Ocean Homer used Okeanos for the world encircling Ocean, and Thalassa for the Mediterranean Sea. Those were denotations: "sea" is the generic meaning, namely a type of water (or water in a certain condition). Thalassw (the verb) = to inundate; to flood. The word elements are THA + LASS/LATT. The meaning of THA is unclear to me. LATT- is related to LATAX. This was the name of a drop of wine left at the bottom of a cup used in playing the game of Kattabos. (The players were to fling these drops unto vessels floating in a basin.) More generally, LATAK- is a milky liquid, such as the one that comes out by breaking off a fig leaf or branch. It seems to me that LATT [Latin LACT-is, milk]and LATAK- are variations of the same element. The THA- is equivalent to the Doric THE- [eta], whence THELE = breast; tit. THELU = feminine, womanly. THELAZW (the verb) = I suckle. [Italian: ALLATTO (obviously derived from colloquial Latin: ad+lact-]. Greek for milk = Gala (galaktos : ga+lakt-) Galaktikos - milk-white. Obviously THALATTA is a later word, since it shoew the slur of KT to TT. (The same thing happened from the change of Latin into Italian (fructus --> frutto). And obviously the THA of Thalatta precluded the interpretation of "something milky" or somehow points to the to the fluid. As to further origins, first of all consider this fact: meaningwise: sea = galatta/galassa = mare , etc. These words are NOT cognates; therefore, they do not originate from a single language (whether you call it Indo-Europeans or anything else). Possibly, one of them may be a variation of an older word. Again: milk = gala (galaktos) = lactis, etc. In this case, there is a Greek-Latin kinship, but it is impossible for all of these words to be derived from a single earlier word. (It is not the case that all of them can be "Indo-European.") In an etymology listing, I find: Milk < Old English Meolc; Milc. The Old High German MILUH is proposed as a kin word, and then the Germanic *MELKAN is fabricated. If all this is correct, then we have words of a Germanic family. There is no clue as to whether Milk is of Indo-European origin, since we have NO words of some language which is then called Aryan or proto-Indo- European or Indo-German or anything else. (There is no evidence for this hypothetical primordial language.)So, when you ask for the IE original word, beware! There are only fabricated IE words.