Re: [tied] Sobaka and Iranian

It's necessary to know more about the distribuition of dogbreeds along time.
Dogbreeds' books usually mention the existence of mastiff-like (molossoid)
dogs that was traded from India to Greece and Rome along Persia,
Mesopotamia, Phoenicia. Is it sure?

Joao SL
Rio

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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:49 PM
Subject: [tied] Sobaka and Iranian


> Piotr
> <<My idea is that <sobaka> was borrowed from a source that had something
like
> *s&baka -- not into Proto-Slavic but into relatively late East Slavic...
The
> weakness of this hypothesis is that I can't identify the intermediary
between
> Iranian and Slavic.>>
>
> I'm curious about the need to identify an intermediary between Iranian and
> Slavic. Herodotus writes of "Indian dogs" among Greeks, presumably the
result
> of long-distance trade in breeds of canines. The hoards of Arab coins
found
> in West Slavic settlements from as early as @800AD would suggest
extensives
> trade contact with the East over an even longer distance than Eastern
Slavic
> would present. Is there a reason we can't assume this might be a trade
name,
> introduced by Iranian-speaking traders? I'm just asking if you are
limiting
> "contact" to proximity or you have some specific reason to think that
Iranian
> speakers could not have been in contact with Eastern Slavic speakers?
(BTW,
> how would the word - as a trade name for a trade object - have changed if
it
> had come through something like Armenian?)
>
> Regards,
> Steve Long
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