Re: [tied] latin "ac"

<atque ~ ac> means more or less "as well as", "and also", "together with" or "and moreover". <Gothi ac Gepidae> means <(the) Goths as well as (the) Gepids> and certainly doesn't imply identity.

Piotr

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Subject: [tied] latin "ac"

How I see in my dictionary the latin ac= at-que and this one is a conjonction I see several meanings for this conjunction but none like " the same as". Can it be that this conjonction has too the sense of " the same as"? So if I have a latin text as : there have been " gothi ac gepidae" From this example, do I have to understand "there have been goths the same as gepidae"? It is possible to make a such confusion with the conjunction "ac"? Or I have to see it as usual ,"there have been goths AND gepidae"? best regards