Re: [tied] *h3 (More deja-vu)

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 15899
Date: 2002-10-03

There is no such thing as a voiced glottal stop, by the way. The vocal folds can't make an occlusion and vibrate at the same time. A laryngealised (creaky-voiced) glottal approximant (transcribed  [*] by Ladefoged and Maddieson and defined as "diminution of energy between adjacent vowels") would however be another imaginable realisation of *h1. My only objection to such a reconstruction is that we'd have to think of a different symbol to replace L&M's asterisk :)
 
Piotr
 
 
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Subject: Re: [tied] *h3 (More deja-vu)

>>we have *d > *h1
> >and *h1k > g, which is more readily explained by /?/.
>
> So... maybe *h1 was a voiced glottal stop.

No, it doesn't have to be.   The glottalic theory fits neatly here.   If the "voiced" consonants of PIE were in fact pre-glottalised, then a combination of ? + voiceless consonant would become very similar to its voiced equivalent.  So h1k > g works well.  If ....!