Re: [tied] *h3 (More deja-vu)

There is no such thing as a voiced glottal stop, by the way. The vocal folds can't make an occlusion and vibrate at the same time. A laryngealised (creaky-voiced) glottal approximant (transcribed [*] by Ladefoged and Maddieson and defined as "diminution of energy between adjacent vowels") would however be another imaginable realisation of *h1. My only objection to such a reconstruction is that we'd have to think of a different symbol to replace L&M's asterisk :)

Piotr

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Subject: Re: [tied] *h3 (More deja-vu)

>>we have *d > *h1 > >and *h1k > g, which is more readily explained by /?/. > > So... maybe *h1 was a voiced glottal stop. No, it doesn't have to be. The glottalic theory fits neatly here. If the "voiced" consonants of PIE were in fact pre-glottalised, then a combination of ? + voiceless consonant would become very similar to its voiced equivalent. So h1k > g works well. If ....!