Re: [tied] *h3 (This odd feeling of deja-vu)

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 15634
Date: 2002-09-20

>But that leaves me with two questions:
>(a) What about h2o? There is an arguable case that
>the reflex of h2o is /a/ in Greek and Latin, not /o/.
>See Sihler p45.

Since Piotr has responded to this, we'll move on.


>(b) As I said in a previous post, isn't it better to keep
>a regular -e- grade in some of these verbs, expecially in
>forms such as the reduplicated presents? The pattern that
>is beginning to emerge of -e- in some forms and -o- in others is broken if
>we have o-grade in all the places that require h3.

But... I have a question. There appear to be verb stems of
the form *CaC. What are there reduplicated presents like?
Do we expect your strict pattern of *Ci-CeC- as per
*dHi-dHeh-, or should we find a pattern like *Ci-CaC-?
What about *o-grade durative stems? Are there reduplicated
forms *Ci-CeC- or are they *Ci-CoC-?

(Actually, I really don't know so if someone can explain
this to me, I promise to be their slave.)


>In addition, are there traceable characteristics of h3
>other than being a laryngeal? Two have been suggested:
>(i) voicing - which is based on slight evidence.
>(ii) rounding - are there any instances where a labial
>environment would be helpful, which we couldn't explain
>from an o-vowel?

If I were to think of *H1, *H2 and *H3 along the lines of
the uvular interpretation of the velars, one might want to
assign their values as *h, *x (uvular) and *hW (just
as we find plain *k, uvular *q and plain labial *kW).

However, it does appear as though *H3 has the same quality
as *H2 (uvularity, let's say) for the simple reason that
they are treated the same in Anatolian.


- gLeN


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