>Funny is, we have this "esht" in the sufixex of the verbs at
>the pers III sg. amurgeSte, amageSte
>"amageshte" --ending-- "ge$te" but a amagi= to tease=lat.
>amagire so end of it= "gire" . how gire went "geshte"?
(Lasciate ogni speranza! :) We dealt with this many a time
in the last 3-4 weeks. To no avail. (the verbs of the 4th
conjugation, ending in -ire and -rîre => indicative present:
-(u)esc, -(u)e$ti, -(u)e(ste), -(u)im, -(u)itzi, -(u)-esc (this
one, pan-Romanian vulgo -(u)-e$te, too :-).
(Since 1954, the orthogr. rules added an -i- /j/. after -u- in the
1st, 2nd, 3rd person ending.) The subjunctive present has
the same endings except the 3rd pers. sing. and plural:
-eascã & -uiascã (-ueascã would be very difficult to pronounce).
>"amurgeshte"--ending-- amurgeshte= to come the evening /to
>begin the day= "a" +murg ;
Thusly, not -ge$te, but amurg+e$te; not -gire, but -ire.
>Of course these are sufixes and they have nothing to do with
>"de$t ". I just wanted to point out some way of "working" of
Check out this: "a$teptare" (to wait).
>ge+"s" which went S just when fallowed by t and t fallowed
>by -e- or -i-.There is no case -so far i know.
Of course not: just try to speak this way, "dejteptule, am
ajteptat mult, de mi-au inghetzat [frozen] dejtele". It's a bit clumsy,
almost difficult, right? So, because of the /Z/, your're gonna
pronounce "dejdeptule (or "dejdebdule"), ajdeptat" and even
"dejdele". But if the reply would be "Cum mult? Douãj' de
minute?" (= douã zeci = twenty, where an entire word
/zetS/ shrinks to a mere /Z/), the /Zd/ is more (so to speak)
natural, since there's the /d/ of the preposition "de", and the
/d/ is followed by a vowel. This one of course supports the "sonorant"
condition of the previous consonant. (All this stuff is similar to
German occurrences -- although not as drastic -- as the "stimmlosen"
and "stimmhaften" consonants are concerned; just look up these
things in your Duden.)
>one exemple more a prãji= to roast(meat) at pers III sg has
>prãjeSte.:-)
Of course. It's a verb of the fourth kind (-ire). Had you attached
to it -ea instead of -i, then you'd get *prãjeazã (i.e. -ez, -ezi,
-eazã, -ezãm, -ezati, -eazã).
George