*h3 (This odd feeling of deja-vu)

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 15466
Date: 2002-09-14

Piotr:
>Once again, I recall this is something that we discussed at some
>depth a long tome ago, in the early months of Cybalist.

One site was recommended by Sergei a while back:
http://titus.fkidg1.uni-frankfurt.de/didact/idg/idgphon.htm

If one scans that page for any instances of *h3, we find the
following examples:

*piph3enti "they drink"
*h2eph3o:n "watery"
*dedh3toi "she gives for herself"
*prh3tos/*prh3wos "first"
*h3nbhl-/*h3nebh-/*h3nobh- "navel"
*h3regtos "directed, right"
*h3kWih- "eye"

Now, *piph3enti has already been an issue on the List and
Piotr suggested that it was in fact *pipih1enti and based on
the o-grade of *peih1-... thus without *h3.

While a root *h2ep- surely exists, the question is whether Old
Irish /aub/ is enough to reconstruct *h2eph3o:n with a **-h3o:n
suffix that I'm not even sure exists.

Next is *dedh3toi but as I've already mentioned, we could just
as well say that it is in fact based on *doh2- with a *dedh2toi
developing into *dedotoi out of analogical pressure from the
guna form *doh2- having developed into *do:-.

Then we have *prh3tos. Aside from Greek /protos/, what is this
based on? The similar looking *prh3wos can just as easily be
reconstructed as *prh2wos based on the evidence. Maybe Greek
/protos/ is a late formation or maybe it's affected by the prefix
/pro-/. There are too many variables.

Again, aside from Greek /omphalos/, is *h3 really warranted?
Given the fact that *h1dont- develops into Greek as /odous/
falsely indicating an *h3- that isn't there, I have a hard time
trusting Greek on its own. As a result *h3regtos and *h3kWih-
are automatically under my scrutiny. We may also implicate
another (pseudo-)potential *h3 root that was not mentioned on the
site, *h3no:mn (based on Greek /onomen/). Given *h1dont-, who's
to say that the roots here aren't *h2regtos, *h2kWih- and
*h1no:mn instead?


- gLeN


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