Re: [tied] "da~$kide" [Re: -ishte, -eshte]

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From: "George" <gs001ns@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: [tied] "da~$kide" [Re: -ishte, -eshte]



>[Moeller] daschide = YES da$chide= NO. I am afraid some
people
>from George's subdialect were the people you heard speaking
>with "sh". In Bucharest are a lot of people from every part
of
>the country, and a lot from other countries too :-)

Come on, stop it. You're misleading people here who might
be interested in Romanian language aspects. If you don't know,
then own up to it - you won't lose any "Zacken" of your crown.
(There is a simple explanation: you had never paid attention
to these petty things before your... "revelation" that
prompted
you to have this hobby-horse: "Romanian is no Romance idiom".)

[Moeller] Wrong. We talk about a fonetic aspect in Muntenia
where is Bucharest too. If there is a phonetic aspect, that
shouldnt be singular. If this is singular, then this is an
accident. I will like to see from your hardly defeated mention
that "dã$chide" has some other examples for beeing indeed a
rule. You wont find.But there are a lot of examples without
"$". And this should be more worth as my words here.


>[Moeller] I dont try to convinge no one but myself.And grevis
>is not gravis.

But if you see examples that illustrate transitions such as
"au > eu"
and "eu > au" is it that difficult to you to conclude
something that's
a step farther than "And grevis is not gravis"?

[Moeller]George, please. In Romanistic is said:"If a word is
at least in 2 romanic words in a form to find, then we dont
must try to create a word because then we will be very able to
invent them not to find popular words." You understand
something from romanistic. So, it ought you knew it. I am not
a romanistic at all. Bu t it happens i know in italian is
grvo, in french is grave and latin was gravis. This should be
enough for the above rule of rebuilding words in romanistic
and for my argumentation too.

>I have no ideea if for other romance language

Now that's bad, indeed. :))

[Moeller] I see.

>[Moeller] Yeap. I told once, i say once again
"Meyer-Lübke-demonstration"

Jeez, it's... zum Mäuse Melken! :) But if that "greu" in
another
Romance idiom could very well have been derived from "gravis",
then why can't you ask yourself "Is it possible/Why is it
impossible
for the Romanian "greu" to have the same origin?" Only as a
thought.
No more than that (Mr Vinereanu won't get offended :).

George

[moeller] ever toucht that the other people have had a
substratum too?and that the latin and greek sources gies us
some hints about the people who inhabites spain and iberia and
galia before romans? It seems you dont. And here is important
the origin. But there you will find PIE and not latin I will
try to guess...




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