Re: [tied] for Richard

From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 15366
Date: 2002-09-10

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Richard, you have a way to explain therwe at Georgiev. This is
the same way as by Decev and Duridanov.
There is a very practic and understable page, where you can
see a lot.
Now as you seen it, please take a Map of Dacia and Thracia,
and take please the names from teh dacian tribes and cities
and other toponims by Ptolemeus.
You will be surprised that you do not find almost nothing from
what is there by Georgiev.
He gives there some example like:
Examples:

IE e > D.-M. ie:
a Dacian tribe is named , but a Thracian one .
Dacian PN Diegis from IE dhegwwh-.
Dacian river name from IE *erĂ°s-.
Dacian word dielina 'Bilsenkraut' from IE *dhel-.

(Attention Piotr with Iepa in the greek word.)

Diegis is put alone there without to remember about Dierna
which alternate with Tierna most probably because greek and
latins did not have had the tz.

But this example with Biessoi and Bessoi how strong can it be?
Take a look at the name of the dacian (not thracian) tribes:

Predavensii, Potulatensii, Rhatacensii,Burudensii, Caucoensii,
Arpii (Carpii), Albocensii, Saldensii, Picensii, Cotensii,
Sensii,Tricornesii, Pricensii

Take a look at the dava-s ( some are danas, some are dauas,
some are davas, it seems is not really sure which is the
really sufix if a sufix. They are to find with the form deva,
daba, dama too)

Acidava, Cumidava, Sucidava, Tamasidava, Netindava, Buridava,
Pelendova, Marcodava

but without Dava: ( I want to know if there was in the entire
Roman Empire an another toponym as Blandiana )

Apulum , Bruda, Blandiana, Alboca, Acmonia, Stenae,
Gernuchera, Petrae, Cibinum,Bersovia, Salinae, Acmonia,
Phrateria, Ardeiscus, Romula, Pinum, Tierna,Napuca, Pirum,
Palada, etc

Take a look please at hidronyms:

Porata, Aparus, Cogaeonus, Marisus, Alutus, Argesus, Naparus
etc..



Do you see them by Georgiev? I dont. Can you understand now
his conclusion anymore?Me, I dont. That is the question with
me:-(