Re: [tied] Rome after III century

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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Rome after III century
> During its formative period Proto-Romanian was not exposed
to direct influences from Italy. After the 4th c. Illyria came
under Byzantine rule, and from the 6th c. onwards Dalmatia
slipped from under Roman control; both provinces were
regularly devastated and colonised by various invaders.
Romance innovations did not radiate from Rome; they originated
in various places and diffused into neighbouring dialects.
Romanian's contacts with the rest of the Romance dialectal
network were limited to Dalmatian, hence its isolation.
>
> Piotr


[Moeller] Piotr we cann speak just about the first century BC
and maximal V century AC. After VI century is no way of
romanisation of someone more because of slavs and the fact
that greek became the official language of the Byzantium.
Just in this time could happen something. And if romanian
should be just with Dalmatia in contact, there we should find
the inovation of dalmatian. So far I remeber , dalmatian
language is classified to occidental romanic languages (
better said, the vegliot language), but there is not such
stuff.
So, we cann just suppose the rumanians lived somewhere indeed
very scattered and none seen them until XI century. But you
must be David Copperfield or better to take them from
somewhere from balcans , to move them north of Danube, to
spread them until Cecz Republic, Polen, Ukraine and to make
them to be so large in so shortly time. Na na na na na. your
money are indeed lost:-)

Seriously now, there is no explanation for the isolation
beside Danube. But north of Danube could not be a romanisation
for romanisation. And so, to make your life hard (joking), I
remember myself about roman-dacian simmilarities like aqa and
apa, so here you have some. I can put my money that if someone
read them and has no ideea about history, he/she will not be
able to say which is a latin one and which is a dacian one.
Romulus & Romula, Apulia & Apulum, Alboca & Alba Longa
If I put even the names without trhe "dava" we will have:
Petrae, Petro(dava), Aci(dava), Marco(dava)Carsi(dava) and so
on and so on..

:-))