Re: [tied] Piotr and the Dacians:-)

From: mbikqyres
Message: 15255
Date: 2002-09-07

--- In cybalist@..., Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
wrote:

> > [Alvin] Pokorny relates Illyrian Buni to modern Albanian terms
for dwelling like bunë or even buj or banoj. The river Buna/Bunë goes
from the lake of Shkodër to Adriatic sea.
>
> The river name is irrelevant. What connection has it got with
dwellings? as for the rest, if Illyrian Buni is a derivative of PIE
*bHuh2-, the root occurs almost everywhere in IE. You might just as
well compare Alb. burrë 'man' with the Germanic tribal name Buri.

> Piotr

The Illyrian words that we know are mostly those of toponyms and
those personal names of distinguish people.
I assumed that Pokorny while explaining the words derivating from the
PIE root bheu- (to be; to grow) was refering to the name of the river
Bunë (as in case of TOmaroj > Tomorr), when comparing Illyrian words
Buni and Boànnoj to Albanian bunë. (Messap. bÚrion)

The following paragraph is this:
"alb. buj, bu^j (*bunj¡) `wohne, übernachte', burr, burrë (*buro-)
`Mann, Ehemann', banë `Wohnung, Aufenthalt, halb verfallenes Haus'
(*bhou¸onƒ: ai. bhavanam), banoj `wohne'; bun(ë) `Sennhütte'
(*bhunƒ); vielleicht auch botë `Erde, Boden, Welt, Leute' (*bhu¸ƒ-tƒ
oder *bhu¸Œ-tƒ)".

As a linguist, you should know better then me how a word which once
meant "to grow" could develope into words which have to do with
building and dwelling.

I also find a logical relation to Albanian word (me) buru/buroj/buron
`derive, spring, start, proceed, stem´. It would fit very well as a
name of a river which springs from a lake.

Alvin