[tied] Re: Cimmerians

--- In cybalist@..., george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

>
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., george knysh <gknysh@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > > > --- In cybalist@..., george knysh <gknysh@...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > the
> > > > > "Tauri" (no relation to the Taurisci),
> > > >(TORSTEN) Why not? The times match (almost);
> > Tauri
> > > disappear
> > > > 200 BCE, Taurisci appear 250-225 BCE. See the
> > > > ethnohistory
> > > > link I sent to Alex.
> > >
> > > *****GK: There is nothing Celtic about the Tauri
> > of
> > > the Crimea. The Taurisci enter history as a Celtic
> > > tribal unit of the La Tene culture. Vague sound
> > > similarities (Tauri/ Taurisci;
> > > Cymru/Cimbri/Cimmerians; Getae/Goths;
> > Scythians/Scots;
> > > Romans/Roma etc. etc.) are not a hopeful method
> > for
> > > the reconstruction of historical events in the
> > absence
> > > of additional textual , archaeological,
> > ethnographic,
> > > linguistic etc. corroborations.*******
> > >
> > >
> > This link
> >
> >
> http://www.rastko.org.yu/arheologija/ajovanovic-nekropole.html
> >
> > might interest you, especcially w.r.t. grave forms.
> > Although he
> > doesn't supply it as a scenario, I think his data
> > are not
> > incompatible with a mass immigration from the Pontic
> > region in the
> > first century BCE.
>
> *****GK: This is the last time I shall waste my time
> in reading the material at links you provide. Enough
> is enough. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING here which can
> be even remotely construed to back up your conclusion.
> The only grave with North Pontic affinity is a SINGLE
> inhumation burial in Moesia Superior. Everything else
> is clearly, unequivocally, and convincingly associated
> with other areas.*******
> >
> > Torsten
>

Sorry for the delay, been down with the flu.

Well, you're the graves expert. I don't think mr. Jovanovic expresses
himself so categorically as you, but if you say there are no Pontic
graves there, I'll take your word for it.

Let's go back to basics.

1)
Snorri says "Odin" went first to Gardariki, then to Saxland.

2)
The Thuringian Chronicle says the the Thuringians are descended from
the Tyragetai. They lived upriver on the Dniestr.

Maybe we should go for a more northerly trail, if indeed there was
such a migration?

Another piece of information, I picked up: The Thuringian law says
they were given their land by Augustus. That would fit in.

Torsten