From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 14679
Date: 2002-08-28
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From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [tied] Categorial collapse
I hear people in North Germany say
things like "mit der Trainer" (mit + nom.!, Bremen) and "mit
die
vielen Schäden" (for "mit den vielen Schäden", of a soccer
team in
the Ruhr area, interview in "Stern"). This doesn't happen in
Southern
Germany.
[Moeller]
I am not sure if in southern Germany is not a such way to
speak. Even myself , I heard such things as " mit die
Schauffel and similiars.. Someone will say, the people you
heard, they simply have no clue of gramatik.This will be a
simply explanation ,but not one for linguists.. Something
makes the simple people who doesnt know too much about
language to speak that way. Or the rules are not for folk, the
folk makes, in time, the rules. Maybe is a general tendency to
simplify the speech, I am not so sure about.