Re: [tied] Re: lat. barbatus

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From: "richardwordingham" <richard.wordingham@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:42 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: lat. barbatus

> Can you yourself see onomatopoeia in the 'borbor' part?
(I'm
> interested in *your* perception. A lot of onomatopoeia is
> conventional.) The 'borbor' part definitely seems to me to
imitate a
> form of mumbling or stuttering. I can imagine it being
based
> on 'vorbi', but that is wild, unsupported speculation.

[Moeller] not. for me an onomatopee is something very short.
and borborosi is not an onomatopee, but see below

> Is there any possibility that 'borborosi' is derived from,
rather
> than parallel to, Greek 'barbaros'?

well, this is what i supposed once. And how hillar it is, this
come indeed from an onomatopee. At that tiem Glen Gorden just
could laugh but here, I re-story.

As I was in Romania I heard some sheppers with their seeps how
they was craying out at sheeps "Bâââârrrrrr","Bââârrrrr", this
repetately. I just laughed too at the time, but then I tought
" but what if the greeks heard these bâr bâr and they amused
themselfs as I at that time did, but speaking about these
strangers, they said " the "people which say ba:r-ba:r ",
later this becaming an adjective.In this case it show clear
how an onomatopoic word became a really word, like several
"lallwörte" which later became mama and papa or tata..
Of course this is just a speculation but is not so fantesist
as I first tought about.

regards
a. moelller