[tied] Re: lat. barbatus

--- In cybalist@..., alexmoeller@... wrote:

> [Moeller]
> this is not a rulle. For instance in german if you have a
> unexpected pain you will say "aua", into romanian just "au"
> the onomatopees are not the same everywhere , almost every
> folk has something special here.

This is neither onomatopoeic nor instinctive. The precise form is
learnt!

> The exemlpe of rum.
> "borborsi" or reg. "bolborosi" is a word where I cannot see an
> onomatopoic here. Is much too similar with "to speak"
> to speak= a vorbi
> to speak uninteligible= a borborosi
> So in the case why is this word onomatopoic ?an explanation
> could be, just because begin with "b" and the second one
> because begins with "v" (joking).
> Not at all, they are all verbs, they shows an action, and most
> important they can be conjugate by themself without some help
> from another verb.And this cannot be an onomatopoic one
> then.Is just a ordinary verb .Speak and speak uninteligible,
> beeing the sense.

Can you yourself see onomatopoeia in the 'borbor' part? (I'm
interested in *your* perception. A lot of onomatopoeia is
conventional.) The 'borbor' part definitely seems to me to imitate a
form of mumbling or stuttering. I can imagine it being based
on 'vorbi', but that is wild, unsupported speculation.

Is there any possibility that 'borborosi' is derived from, rather
than parallel to, Greek 'barbaros'?

Richard.