Re: [tied] Re: Finding agriculture's 'genetic signature'

This partly dodges the question. We do not know how proto- or even
pre-Indoeuropeans went to war, in general or in this particular case. So
my question to those informed to give an answer: Would such a scenario
leave the genetic traces that have been found?

Jens

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

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> > ... a male invasion army of Indo-Europeans? Did Old Europe get ploughed and then usurped?
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> Jens,
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> The concept of all-male IE troops saying farewell to their homes and women and going to war abroad is anachronistic. I don't think this kind of organised warfare predates the formation of centrally governed states _anywhere_. Even the Celtic or Germanic "armies" of the Roman period consisted of men moving together with their own wives, kids, goods and chattels. Of course they left the women behind in the camp when they encountered the enemy and went out to battle, but generally the tribe moved en masse. Read e.g. the description of the Cymbri in Plutarch.
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> Piotr
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