Re: hal

--- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., "Sergejus Tarasovas" <S.Tarasovas@...>

wrote:

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But the Aestii are routinely (though not absolutely reliably)
> > identified
> > > with the West Balts... A p-Celtic Prussia, later conquered by

the

> > West
> > > Balts?
> > >
> > > Sergei
> >
> > If you are to believe Tacitus, apparently yes. But it would fit

in

> > nicely with my idea that Denmrk then was part Celtic (Cimbri),

part

> > Old-Germanic speaking.
> >
> > Torsten
>
> from Bent Søndergaard: Indledende studier over den nordiske
> stednavnetype lev (löv):
>
> "
> Islev, Rødovre sogn, Sokkelund herred
>
> 1370-80 Estløwa
> 1377 Estløwæ
> 1538 Isløf
> 1575 paa Islef Mark
> "
> This is on Sjælland, northwest of Copenhagen.
>
> The first element has been interpreted as gen.plur. of the ethnonym
> <esti> "man from Estonia". The -lev toponyms are generally

considered

> migration period or older. The people in question would then be
> Aestii, not Estonians.
> There is an Isterød, too, north of Copenhagen. The -rød (clearing)
> names are considered late, Viking age, I believe. North Sjælland

was

> cleared and cultivated rather late
>
> Torsten

Interesting book BTW.
For those that wonder why the Germanic *welx- word was used both in
Romania and France:

Walschleben, Kr. Erfurt, Thuringia
bef. 900 in loco Walheslebe
973 Uualeshelebo
etc

apparently the Hermunduri included some *welx- people.

and

Uthleben, Kr. Nordhausen, Sachsen-Anhalt
1094 Odenleue
1139 in Utheleven
1188 in Odenleibe

Now, if the first element is a personal name...
Hm!

Torsten