> Regarding the ethimology of thracian
"diza" i should like to ask you if the IE radical *deiwa, the one which is
assumed to have been the root of dacian "dava"
[moeller]
Assumed by whom? I think the majority view
among those interested in Dacian is that toponymic <dava> is a derivative
of *dHeh1- 'put, place'. I have myself attempted to connect it with *dah2- (as
in Greek de:mo-), but I've never seen it derived from *deiwo- (if what you mean
is the 'day/skygod' root -- but why should a word meaning 'town' be related to
it?).
[moeller] why should be it the meaning
"town"? It is generally assumed to be town by which considerations? we have
there some derivations of that word "dava" supposed to be in several forms
because of the dialectal character of the dacians tribes. So we have "dava,
deva, daba, dama". Is this normal that in *dHeh1 the "h1" to generate for the
same folk sufixes like "ama", "ava", "aba","ama"? Even the old name of the
Odrissians capital "Odryssia" was first , before the greek camme, Uscudama , in
my opinion once again a confirmation of Dio Cassius that the thracians was a
branche of getae and not as common accepted , the thtracina is the big family
which include the getae.
> could be too supposed to be the root
of thracian "diza".
[Piotr wrote]
How would you explain <z> for *w, and
what for? The root *dHeig^H-, meaning 'form, shape, build' has derivatives
meaning 'wall' or 'rampart, fortification', including Old Persian diða:
'fortress' and Greek teikHos 'wall' (not to mention the word <paradise>,
ultimately of Iranian origin, *pari-daiza- 'enclosed park'). Thracian -diza (~
-dizos) fits like a glove here.
[Moeller] you are right. But these "diza"
is really thracian? I make a comparation on the Duridanov maps and i see that
the thracians towns were in "para" and "bria". So in this case , which one is
meaning "town"? para, bria or diza? I ask it because as we see on the maps the
localities with the sufiex "diza" are very few and with the exception of
"Kistidizos" all of them are located in the region of Bosphorus, meaning very
south of the thracian . Do you have any explanation of these
points?
Piotr