Re: Decoding Meluhhan dialect

From: jdcroft
Message: 13760
Date: 2002-05-23

Folks

Tabira in Sumerian is acknowledged as coming from a Hurrian
substrate. It appears that Hurrian metalworkers were the
intermediary between PIE and Sumerian for a number of words (eg.
Sumerian gigir and PIE *kwelkos, for example).

Regards

John

--- In cybalist@..., "kalyan97" <kalyan97@...> wrote:
> Thanks a lot Miguel for the info.
>
> At last! Now, it can be claimed with a reasonable degree of
> confidence that most of the inscribed objects of Indian
civilization
> can be read as tools of trade of braziers, yes, bharata-s.
>
> No wonder, in the tradition of Bha_rata, Bha_rati_ is another name
> for Sarasvati_, the river, godess of speech, arts and crafts. Yet
> another synonym of Sarasvati_ become the name of a script: Bra_hmi_.
>
> The file which outlines the decoding method, is at the URL
>
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndianCivilization/files/sarasvati/brazi
> ers.doc
>
> Click on files; click on folder sarasvati.
>
> File : /sarasvati/braziers.doc
>
> Description : Meluhhan language and bha_rata
>
> This is a breakthrough in ancient studies of the region related to
> ca. 3300 BCE.
>
> The nature of Meluhha (ml.ekh, 'goat' -- Brahui) and its relation
to
> all the languages of Bha_rata, to Pali, Santali, Gujarati, Marathi,
> Kannada, Telugu, Konkani, Punjabi in particular can now be resolved
> and evaluated further through substratum, adstratum studies.
>
> The closest substrate family? Nahali! Close to Bhr.gu Ks.etra in
the
> Gulf of Khambat. We are certainly dealing with a linguistic area
ca.
> 3300 to 1500 BCE on the Sarasvati Sindhu River Basins.
>
> The inscribed objects of the civilization can be read with
confidence
> using mleccha dialect which Vidura and Yudhis.t.hira knew (as noted
> in the Maha_bha_rata).
>
> After the first volume on Sarasvati (available at Amazon), the
> quintet, next 5 volumes of Sarasvati encyclopaedia are in press
> and are titled: 1. Sarasvati: Epigraphs; 2. Sarasvati: Language; 3.
> Sarasvati: Technology; 4. Sarasvati: Bha_ratam Janam; 5. Sarasvati:
> Heritage.
>
> Kalyanaraman
>
> --- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> > Sumerian <tibira> or <tabira> (written LU2 URUDU-NAGAR,
> i.e. "[person]> copper.carpenter") means "metal worker,
coppersmith".
> > > It is generally assumed that the word was borrowed from some
other
> > language. A possible candidate is PIE *dhabhros "carpenter,
smith"
> (>> Lat. faber, Arm. darbin). After all, one cannot exclude that
> Sumerian> <urudu>, "copper", was borrowed from a PIE name for the
red
> metal,> *h1reudhos (Skt. loha-, Slav. ruda, Lat. raudus/ru:dus, OHG
> aruzzi >> Erz [borrowed from *aruti in some other IE lg.?]).