Re: [tied] Proto Romanian Cradle

--- altamix <altamix@...> wrote:

> > > How you [Piotr GK] see, toponisms, hidronisms,
> > onomastics
> > > cannot be sufficient
> > > to say " we know that these were DIFFERENT
> > > languages"
> > >
> > > But we have wrotten affirmations which says "
> they
> > > speak the same
> > > language" . I guess it is far, far more as
> simple
> > > deduction and that what you embrace is , in this
> > > case, "scientific
> > > speculations"...
> >
> > *****GK: Where did Strabo say that Celts, Dacians,
> > Thracians, and Latins "speak the same language"?
> I'll
> > tell you where, nowhere. You can certainly use him
> to
> > argue that to a Greek Dacian and Thracian sounded
> > pretty similar (and perhaps were as close as say
> > Portuguese and French or whatever). But you can't
> use
> > this to back up a theory of commonality (other
> than IE
> > of course) between all the languages you've
> mentioned.
>
>
> [Moeller] he didnt say as you write here. He said in
> Balcan
> inclusively the dacians from both sides of Danube
> speak the same
> language.(he excepted greek and ilirians here)

*****GK: No Mr. Moeller. That is not what he said.
Here is what he said: "the Getae, a tribe with the
same tongue as the Thracians", and a few lines
further: "The language of the Daci is the same as that
of the Getae. Among the Greeks, however, the Getae are
better known because the migrations they make to
either side of the Ister are continuous, and because
they are intermingled with the Thracians and Mysians."
(7.3.) Hence, as I put it earlier "You can certainly
use him [Strabo]

> to
> > argue that to a Greek Dacian and Thracian sounded
> > pretty similar (and perhaps were as close as say
> > Portuguese and French or whatever). But you can't
> use
> > this to back up a theory of commonality (other
> than IE
> > of course) between all the languages you've
> mentioned.


>(Moeller) And about the celst from Galia he said

their

> language is very similar
> with latin. OK?

*****GK: OK what? That the Latins, Celts, Thracians
and Daco-Getans spoke the same language? No, indeed,
not OK at all. First of all give us the quote about
Gallia. Then explain how from these Strabonian
materials you deduce that Latins etc. spoke the same
language.******


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