Re: [tied] Re: I, Hercules [was: A "Germanic" query] IRMIN

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 13108
Date: 2002-04-08

Could be *Ermunaz a corruption of expected *Erjaman-/Arjaman? Maybe an
archaic oblique form *Erjamun- developed into *Erjamunaz>Ermunaz, lately
folk-etymologized as "strong, powerful, great".

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From: tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:01 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: I, Hercules [was: A "Germanic" query]


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> > --- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Reading E. Benveniste: Indo-European Language and Society, London
> > > 1973 it dawned on me that <ermin> is definitely not
> > unetymologizable.
> > >
> > > Old Persian <Aryaman>
> > > Modern Persian <e:rma:n> "guest"
> > > Ossetic <ilman> "friend"
> > >
> > > But now I learn that <armen> is also a personal name in Armenian.
> > >
> > > Surfing on the net for Thuringian migration time history I
> discover
> > > that around 0 CE it was invaded and settled by the Hermunduri
> (The
> > > Ermun-dur-i in Tor-ing-ia, get it? Know what I mean (nudge-nudge,
> > > wink-wink?),
> > >
> > > asked
> > > Torsten
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> --- In cybalist@..., "caraculiambro" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> > It may be etymologisable, but certainly not like that. Germanic
> > *ermVn- does not mean 'guest' or 'friend', but 'huge', 'mighty',
> etc.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> Yes, but actually it was the Germanicity of Arminius, Hermunduri, etc
> that was called into question.
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> Torsten
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