Re: [tied] Re: The "Lesser Goths" of Jordanes

From: george knysh
Message: 13028
Date: 2002-04-05

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@..., x99lynx@... wrote:
> > Torsten wrote:
> > <Yes, true. But as far as I can tell, your
> "reappraisal" of
> Jordanes' account
> > is based what on nothing else than what you would
> wish to be the
> case.>
> >
> >(Steve) I don't think there's anyone on this list
who buys
> Jordanes'
> account 100%,
> > word-for-word, as accurate history.
> (Torsten)I do. As a working hypothesis until proven

*****GK: This would mean accepting the view that Berig
brought his Goths over from Scandza ca. 1500 BC, and
that Filimer led them into Scythian Oium some 150
years or so later... Of course these deeply
anachronistic relative datings are needed in the
context of Jordanes' identification of the Goths with
the Getae. But we know that this identification
(rewritten from Cassiodorus)is totally inappropriate.
As demonstrated earlier, Jordanes/Cassiodorus "prove"
their point exclusively on the authority of Orosius,
and the latter depends on Jerome. The Bethlehem
Saint's arbitrary misperception can hardly be
considered an adequate basis for reconstructing a
scientifically accurate history. *******

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