Re: [tied] Re: Misra, Bryant and Indigenous-Nationalist Conflation

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 12938
Date: 2002-03-29

Dear Vishal,
 
This is becoming ridiculous. I am fully prepared to believe that Misra is _not_ a Hindu nationalist. In fact, I simply don't care, as I think I have said clearly enough. I am against mixing domains. If X is a nationalist but does good science, I'll respect him as a scholar, though I may not like him as a person. Of course a strong ideological bias may influence the way you work as a scholar, but even then what should be criticised in a linguistic discussion is the fellow's _scholarly_ opinions, not his _political_ ones. Funny that you should be so concerned about branding. You do a lot of branding in your own postings, describing various people as "white", "European/North American", "Indian Marxists" etc.
 
On the other hand, the fact that anyone's ideological credentials are impeccable says nothing about that person's scholarly qualifications. If Misra is against nationalism, fine, so am I. Then perhaps we'd agree politically. But it won't improve my opinion about him as a linguist.
 
To my knowledge, Witzel does not claim that Old High German is the closest thing there is to Proto-Indo-European, or that the Nibelungenlied was composed a few thousand years earlier than other people think it was, or even that Germany is the PIE homeland. It's easy to see that you don't like Witzel, but what's that to me? What are those ominous past and present reasons for which you'd like to brand him (and the Indo-Europeanists in general) with "all kinds of epithets"?
 
If you want to have the last word on it, be my guest. I've already said what I cared to say.
 
Piotr
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: vishalsagarwal
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:08 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Misra, Bryant and Indigenous-Nationalist Conflation

My point was that if this is the way people will go about branding people from India with non-mainstream (and possibly wrong) views on IE linguistics with various ideological affiliations, there is an even greater reason to brand IE specialists with all kinds of epithets because of historical AND PRESENT reasons.

The fact is the Piotr WILL NOT use the same standards to judge Witzel as a German Nationalist or an Aryanist. Nor will you.

Does that not say it all?